The technical discussion in the middle conference room lasted for about three hours.

The second half of the discussion had nothing to do with <>, but .......

"The idea of the <> was originally ......"

"<> can be applied in the field of ......"

"The future world that the <> will open up is ......"

Most of them were about the <>.

Even after the first lecture on <>, which had just ended, there were a few who remained at <> for a technical discussion.

One of them was Berlich Becker, the head of the .

He is now the fifth generation, or Berlich V.

After the debate, Jin renewed old acquaintanceships with Groma, Eira, and Cachea. Reinhardt, of course, attended the meeting as a friend.

Berrich Becker was also there.

After eating lunch together in the cafeteria, they are chatting in a sort of debate.

< has temporarily ceased to exist, Berlich said.

"It is well known that my home lord Reinhardt had a powerful golem called the <>, but it is missing now."

"Ah, ah, I see. ......"

Actually, the <> was on <> and he didn't know that Stephanie Randle had inherited it.

"So I made a golem named <>, but it wasn't enough."

"I see."

At this point, Groma Trey speaks up.

"We agreed that we wanted to develop a high-performance golem," he said.

"I see."

Gromma is the oldest at 30, followed by Berlich at 28. Eira is 27 and Katya is 19.

As a side note, all four of them will add a year to their age when their birthdays come this year.

Aside from that, Hitoshi was surprised at the closeness between Katya and Berlich.

He pretends not to notice, however, because he is aware that he is not the right person to comment on the relationship between a man and a woman.

"......, back to the topic, I think it's important to know what constitutes high performance, especially in the field of consumer products. Especially in the field of consumer products."

When Jin said this, Berlich was the first to bite.

"I think you are right. If the golem that ...... Jin-sama makes is the pinnacle, I would like to think about how we can approach it.

"Well, in my case, I use a lot of rare materials.

Of course, this is not the only way to make a high-performance golem, but the high basic performance of the materials is a big advantage.

At this point, Reinhardt spoke up. He could no longer remain silent.

"I'm a friend of Jin's, ...... Hurt," he said. I think there are at least two approaches. One is how to make it cheap and improve performance, and the other is how to make a high performance product using expensive and rare materials, and then how to reduce the cost without compromising the performance.

"That's certainly true."

Groma agreed.

"Now it's a question of which is more important, cost or performance. Cost or performance?

Mr. Berlich also expressed his opinion.

"Yes, yes. That's what I mean. I can tell you from experience that it's not very efficient to do one without the other.

Reinhard says.

I see, I can understand that. It's hard to narrow down the considerations between cost and performance, isn't it?"

Berlich, the workshop owner, agrees.

It's very difficult for an engineer to improve performance while reducing cost.

"For me, I would like to increase performance while maintaining low costs."

Berlich states his thoughts. And Jin agreed with him.

"Oh, I agree with you.

But..,

"Jin, you say that now ......"

Reinhardt said to him.

"It's true, I basically use rare materials when I can, but if I can't, I don't use them.

Jin retorts. Then, Katya backs him up.

"That's right. When Jin-san made , he made such an amazing golem with the materials available to him, didn't he!

"Oh ...... is that so? ......"

Berlich's energy level dropped a little, probably because Cachier was covering for Jin.

Katya herself seemed to know nothing about it,

"Jin-san's Hope was always great!

He praised her.

She must have been remembering the sham fight between the Golem of Groma and Hope.

"Ha-ha, thank you."

At any rate, Jin thanked her. It seems that Katya is quite insensitive. Jin can't say the same thing about others.

"...... Let me back up a bit.

Groma read the air and changed the subject.

"Certainly, it's more rewarding for us engineers to think about improving performance than to think about lowering costs."

"Yes."

Jin nodded.

When I used to work in modern Japan, I still have memories of the chaos that ensued on the shop floor because of designs that ignored all the requests from the factory.

I wish that production engineers who specialize in cost reduction would do it. I really do."

"Jin?"

Oh, no, I'm talking about this one. I'm talking about ...... but I've seen the Black Knight. It's pretty good, isn't it?"

"What?　When and why?"

Naturally Berlich reacted to Jin's words.

"Actually, ......."

Jin explained briefly. He had been to the Berlich workshop. The farm golem used by his student Emile's parents had gone out of control.

<. After investigating the cause of the problem, he discovered that the control core had been sloppily built.

He does not tell us that Ludwig asked Fried Randall of the security guard to find out who committed the fraud. It would have been strange if Jin had known about it.

"Did that happen? ...... How shameless!"

Berlich was half disgusted, half indignant.

"It's inexcusable,...... and there's nothing I can do about it, no matter how much I breathe here."

Gromma looked equally chagrined.

"......, how about forming something like the <>?"

suggested Cachia, which was unusual.

"Union?"

Groma asked, not quite understanding what he was getting at.

"Yes. Well, it doesn't have to be a union. The point is that if you are a member of the union, you can guarantee a certain level of quality.

"Oh, I see!"

Jin guessed that what Katya was talking about was something like the (Japanese Industrial Standards) in modern Japan.

Nowadays, the quality of Japanese industrial products is world-class, but I have heard from the Director that for a while after the war (after the Pacific War), pencils without the JIS mark were useless. The lead snapped off when sharpened, making them unusable.

As a side note, there is also a story that the JIS mark will be changed to <> in 2017, but of course, Jin could not have known about it since it was after he was summoned to Ars.

"Ars golem standard <> or ......."

Jin muttered,

"Yes, that's it!

Ka-CHEER said.

"Ah ......, I guess <> will have to take the lead on this one."

Jin thinks that this is a bit troublesome, but on the other hand, it is good that the quality of the golem is stabilized.